Warlick's CoLearners

This page displays the transcript for the chat session engaged in during for the first 24 hours after the publishing of the opening keynote address for the 2007 K12Online Conference. To edit this document, use the password k12online.


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bobs (us) • 2007-10-08 06:42:55
lol... can't get the video to load... too many of us hitting it

alicebarr (US) • 2007-10-08 06:44:20
video slow but now running on my machine

bobs (us) • 2007-10-08 06:45:38
got it!

Sheryl Nussbaum-Beach (US) • 2007-10-08 06:47:12
There are others on.. :)

David Warlick (US) • 2007-10-08 06:47:25
Ya'll enjoy! I'm going to go take a nap ;-)

Sheryl Nussbaum-Beach (US) • 2007-10-08 06:47:46
You do that David-- you deserve it.

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:49:15
Downloading video now :)

Jo McLeay (AU) • 2007-10-08 06:51:20
Just downloading now 11%

Suriawang Dapto (SL) • 2007-10-08 06:51:44
Is the video playing anywhere in SecondLife?

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:51:48
What's that handy remote David is using? and is he filming with a webcam?

For most of the video, I used a Sony Handycam, about three years old. The device I kept aiming at the camera was the remote for stopping and starting record. Toward the end, I was using the iSight camera, plugged into my MacBook.

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:53:27
Hey I'm listening too!

Christine Southard (NY) • 2007-10-08 06:53:36
Good Morning Teacher Friends!

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:53:40
I downloaded and have got it. I don't want to go to school.

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:54:02
I like this chat.

Christine Southard (NY) • 2007-10-08 06:54:10
Where are you accessing the video?

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:54:16
I wish it stayed up longer than 24-48 hours. It's almost 48 hours later, and things have died down to a trickle -- but a total of 2,581 messages in that amount of time. It's a global conversation.

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:54:20
Was watching online, but paused to wait for download so I can chat and watch at same time.

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:54:41
Really, Vicki, it's only 48 hours?

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:54:44
I just blogged it at http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com how to do it.

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:55:00
Yes it says 24-48 hours with this chat available.

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:55:12
I wish it just stayed up forever, but I don't know what it would to to his server.

True enough. Get to know Twitter, folks.

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:55:25
But I guess they're going to post the transcript somewhere for further conversation, I think I read.

Jo McLeay (AU) • 2007-10-08 06:55:47
Just checked you blog Vicki, it's great

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:55:55
What time is it for you, Vicki? 8.55 pm here in Korea - you're outside Atlanta, yes?

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:56:09
7:55 am -- I'm 3 hours away in the sticks of south Georgia.

Jo McLeay (AU) • 2007-10-08 06:56:12
Hey it's 9.55 pm here

Christine Southard (NY) • 2007-10-08 06:56:22
7:58 am in New York

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:56:27
Australia's always out front. :)

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:56:47
Of course... I learn so much from the Aussies -- they are awesome.

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:56:59
They just don't like to brag -- you have to dig out of them all of the awesome things they are doing.

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:57:17
I want to know about David's setup to make the video.

Mostly a Sony Handycam, iMovie for the post production, iShowU for the screen captures, PowerPoint for the presentations slides with my video embedded. Nothing at all fancy. Nothing that you can't do with many of the computers in your classrooms.

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:57:26
Nice twitter link to proxy or something if access blocked at school or Chi

Kim Cofino (TH) • 2007-10-08 06:57:36
Hi All from Bangkok, Thailand!

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:57:47
Getting rid of the boundaries -- I also wish he would ustream after a little bit and give a live response to the chat.

Wouldn't it be interesting if you could "VoiceThread" this?

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:58:07
Australia, US, Thailand, Korea -- within 5 minutes of the presentation going live?

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:58:27
the download is running now. Popcorn?

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:58:28
I like that we put in our country here. That is great idea for backchannel.

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:58:53
I'm going to have to go offline and sit in the corner of staff development. I wish I had a cochlear implant so they wouldn't know I waas listening.

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 06:59:06
YAWN -- Morning

Jo McLeay (AU) • 2007-10-08 06:59:20
Good Morning Jen

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:59:20
Hi Jennifer W -- is this THE Jennifer W in California?

Suriawang Dapto (SL) • 2007-10-08 06:59:22
I was looking over his shoulder from SecondLife, and I think he was using a Sony Handycam camera.

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 06:59:37
Where are you, Jennifer? ("The borders have changed," Dave is saying as we chat.)

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 06:59:50
Suriawang dapto -- how did you look over his shoulder from Second life?

Suri is a sly old dude

Jeff Bailey (US) • 2007-10-08 07:00:08
Has Dave started talking yet?

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:00:49
I sent this to my principal and director at an IB conference in Singapore.

Gradster One (US) • 2007-10-08 07:00:59
what do I do?! someone said that it starts at eight and I don't know what starts at eight (except for a vague idea, which is why I'm even here...)

Justin Medved (TH) • 2007-10-08 07:01:24
Justin MEdved - www.medagogy.edublogs.org - chiming in

Kim Cofino (TH) • 2007-10-08 07:01:28
Our edtech team is here, plus our elementary librarian plus our two ES admin!

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 07:01:40
It took 5 minutes for me over wifi.

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 07:01:52
I don't recommend watching online b/c it is extremely extremely slow.

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 07:02:01
Download and take DAve with you everywhere you go.

Justin Medved (TH) • 2007-10-08 07:02:25
So far International School Bangkok has 3 ed -tech and two admin - more on the way

Gradster One (US) • 2007-10-08 07:03:04
anyway someone told me there'd be something on at eight - about k12 - and I'm interested but don't know what to do....

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 07:03:20
I wrote about it gradster -- go to my blog - http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:03:28
http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=144 -

Coolcatteacher (US) • 2007-10-08 07:03:29
Most of us are downloading it and watching it on our computers.

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:04:02
I'm gonna focus now and listen. Chime in later.

Justin Medved (TH) • 2007-10-08 07:05:09
The Sruth is here - www.struth.edublogs.org

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:05:17
"our task is to find the new boundaries" - beyond filtering all?

What's exciting is that our task is largely to invent the new boundaries...

JWitter (US) • 2007-10-08 07:05:36
I'm grabbing the audio first, for a review, then I'll start the video. Any tips?

JWitter (US) • 2007-10-08 07:07:11
What other conference presentations are you looking forward to?

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:07:48
jwitter -- I really haven't looked yet at the listing

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:07:55
but they should all be great

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:08:22
WOOOOOOOOO YEAH

Stεle Brokvam (PH) • 2007-10-08 07:08:44
Hi to all from the Philippines

annelies Hoogland (TH) • 2007-10-08 07:09:05
WOW! This is my first online conference...a group of us in Bangkok in the Learning Hub!

Suriawang Dapto (SL) • 2007-10-08 07:10:03
David has gone to ride his bicycle and listen to William Gibson...

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:10:06
but it is streaming without breaks

annelies Hoogland (TH) • 2007-10-08 07:10:23
Hi, Carolyn...I am a keen reader of your blog. what time is it in Texas?

Stεle Brokvam (PH) • 2007-10-08 07:10:24
Sure, all of us educators

Cyndi Danner-Kuhn (KS) • 2007-10-08 07:10:49
Ast. Professor working with pre-service teachers here

Gradster One (US) • 2007-10-08 07:10:53
ha, I'm an educatee

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:11:11
Nice video of airplane takeoff - editing skills :)

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:11:27
right now he is at a park --

Carolyn Foote (US) • 2007-10-08 07:11:28
lol..this is going to make me late for work

Jeanette (US) • 2007-10-08 07:11:30
"preparing our students to be free agents"

Struan Robertson (TH) • 2007-10-08 07:12:35
Time for a thinking dinner.... anyone in?

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:12:48
grins -- thinking breakfast here

Jean Anning (AU) • 2007-10-08 07:12:53
Hello from Australia

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:12:53
oh -- here is the airport

Christine Southard (NY) • 2007-10-08 07:13:15
@ my house - David is in Starbucks

Jeff Bailey (US) • 2007-10-08 07:13:17
Is it coincidence that we are "inventing new boundaries" on Columbus Day?

This is cool. Columbus heads for one place, and ends up someplace else. But he makes the best of it.

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:13:28
tougher to backchannel when folks are watching/listening to different parts! :0

Christine Southard (NY) • 2007-10-08 07:13:41
@Jeff - Discovery Day

Maybe we need an innovation day.

Struan Robertson (TH) • 2007-10-08 07:13:55
Happy Thanksgiving Canadians!!!

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:14:34
showing 1961 encyclopedia - when info didn't change

Christine Southard (NY) • 2007-10-08 07:14:39
Now David is in his home office

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:14:43
oh how things have changed...

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:14:58
carolyn do you want me to pause until you get to the airport??

/gradster(1)/ (US) • 2007-10-08 07:15:09
so are you watching this to see what you can do for us?

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:15:12
"I do a lot of my work here at Starbucks" - funny example of change lol

I don't even especially like coffee. The murmur of conversation helps me to focus. Funny. Yeah!

/gradster(1)/ (US) • 2007-10-08 07:15:20
I'm watching this to see what you can do for me

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:17:28
"I was the last generation who looked at his father..."

.. and believe that he was looking at his future. Challenge is, how do I model for my children -- for my students. If we're preparing our children to be free-agent workers (and that's just a speculation), then perhaps we should help them to become free-agent learners.

Powerful Learning Experiences? I think this is the crux of the problem we face in schools today. Most educators were not taught to be free-agent learners so they don't know what we mean. Learning as we experience it in these interactive environments is exhilarating because it's inquiry-driven, personally meaningful, open-ended, and intellectually stimulating. How many classrooms, schools and professional development experiences can we describe with those words? We "hold administrators accountable;" "negotiate contractual articles" to define teacher common learning time; and lecture students, quiz them, test them and move to the next unit regardless of what they didn't learn so they are "well prepared" for high stakes tests that decide if they will graduate or not. In the curriculum frameworks driven environment of schools today is they any room for "powerful learning experiences?" Dennis Richards: twitter.com: dennisar / innovation3.blogspot.com


Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:17:45
"...and believed he was seeing his own future." Quotable.

Jo McLeay (AU) • 2007-10-08 07:17:48
Hello just blogged about this on http://theopenclassroom.blogspot.com

Sheryl Nussbaum-Beach (US) • 2007-10-08 07:17:52
Clay--I loved that part

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:17:59
I am taking screen shots -- will blog later

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:18:05
reference to the little ladies from last year at the greenway LOL

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:18:39
@clay I loved that quote, too!

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:19:10
one of the hard things: talking about this world, our experiences, and...

Sheryl Nussbaum-Beach (US) • 2007-10-08 07:19:16
You should have seen the line around the virtual building waiting for K12Online to start

/gradster(1)/ (US) • 2007-10-08 07:19:24
what should I call my blog post about this? :P

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:19:31
...communicating that the point is not to boast, but to testify!

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:19:46
David seemed to feel that danger a minute ago.

Carolyn Foote (US) • 2007-10-08 07:19:59
if there's no border, how do we get our traction to move forward

How do you get anywhere without traction. So what's the new traction? Is it our students?

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:20:02
"information is independent of time and space"

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:20:29
"Their world is not stable."

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:20:53
i wonder who was watching David as he filmed this plane taking off -- I bet someone was. :)

I was just a bit nervous about that. But, hey! It's a free country.

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:21:14
That "natives" thing: my "kids" are digital slackers. RSS? What's that?

''Excellent point. Some are not even into it at all. Others call it other things. Kids aren't blogging or podcasting nearly as much as we are. They are engaged in social networks and gaming guilds. They are in communities. We don't really have time for that. Blogging is a much more lossly connected social network that is more organic than MySpace -- I suspect.

For our students it's much more about the information and each other. It's about attention. For us, it's about work -- accomplishing goals.

What if we made our blogs look more like MySpace pages, with profiles. What if we used them to show off -- our lesson plans and created materials? Would that be useful?

I'm just spouting off here, but there are still great differences between how we use these new tools, this new shape of information, and the way that our students do. What if each students had a classroom MySpace account with a classroom profile and portfolio of inventions and creations. This is FAR from an original thought. But worthy of thinking hard on.''

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:21:17
"shape and reshape Information": Very cool!

JenniferW (US) • 2007-10-08 07:21:29
I paid for that cupu of coffee!!

And I thank you. When I feel like being good to myself, I order a Chai Latte. If I feel decadent, I order a Hot Chocolate, and drink it with my eyes closed. ;-)

Carolyn Foote (US) • 2007-10-08 07:22:17
bye :) oddly enough, I could work from home ;) except for the students.... are at school ;)

I worked with a school a few weeks ago where the teachers work in cubicles, teaching students who live all over the city of Las Vegas. It was very interesting. I'm not sure that would work for me, but there are many faces to being a teacher now. That's important!

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:22:45
we and our students really do have so much power! Power to shape the future...

A truer statement has not been said here!

mrsdurff (US) • 2007-10-08 07:23:05
this is cool - why i want to read the directions?

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:23:45
"magical, alien powers...hear and see through walls"

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:24:14
meanwhile Ning AP Lit student auto-notify email appears on desktop

This is just too appropriate! We're surrounded in conversation -- swollowed up by it. Got to switch it off sometime. Perhaps when I retire...

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:24:16
"how do we drive curriculum, when we can no longer depend on gravity?" paraphrased

Clay Burell (KR) • 2007-10-08 07:24:18
multiverse

There is no gravity in the Metaverse (reference Neal Stephenson’s 1992 novel Snow Crash). It's programmed in, but can be programmed out. It's why we can fly in SecondLife. Do we continue to prepare our children for an unpredictable future by providing wheels -- or by providing wings?

Jeff Bailey (US) • 2007-10-08 07:25:29
I've downloaded it, after I watch it, where do we "discuss"?

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:26:00
how will we get those who "don't get it" to "get it" - David's message is so "on"

I hear this question every day. We tell a new story that (1) fits the market place, (2) resonates with deeply held values, (3) and is something we can point to and say, "Here's what it should look like." Unfortunately, the story, though it will have similar elements, is different in each community.

Stεle Brokvam (PH) • 2007-10-08 07:26:14
Enter BitTorrent?

I still don't know how BitTorrent works. :-/

Marie Coleman (US) • 2007-10-08 07:27:16
best thing we can do is to teach students how to teach themselves

/gradster(1)/ (US) • 2007-10-08 07:27:35
blogging suspended - I haven't the faintest what's going on but I'M SO EXCITED

For those just joining us, Gradster is not a teacher. He's a student.

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