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On March 9, 2009, the Edmonton Public Schools held a professional development day to explore and discuss literacy and technology and to a larger degree, education 2.0. A group of high school students, viewing the keynote from their high schools, chatted about the presentation in real time, contributing their thoughts and insights about the ideas around 21st century teaching and learning.

Here is a transcript of that conversation. You can insert your comments (this is a wiki page) by clicking "Edit" (above) and entering teacher as the password.

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LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:12:45
Hey

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:13:28
Hi

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:13:38
Hey

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:13:41
R U In teh techno meeting?

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:14:06
:O

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:14:13
YEA! :D

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:14:27
Yes we're in the Warlick sesion

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:14:39
Okay, wonderful.

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:15:02
You guys actually getting anything from this?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:15:07
We lost him once more.

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:15:18
:P

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:15:23
I think that our education is giving us the keys to success but we are the ones who need to adapt to the changing world to make it better.

There is certainly some truth to this. A lot of the responsibility does belong to the students. But our goal, in my opinion, should be to prepare you for your future. That means that the keys need to frequently be adapted. I often ask teachers, "How many long division problems have you done in the last month? Not that you shouldn't be learning long division, but it is like several of you said, its what you can do with long division, not that you can do 35 of them without mistake on command.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:15:34
I don't know what to be prepared for.

That was one of my main points. Perhaps we need to prepare you to be able to prepare yourself -- for the rest of your life ;-)

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:15:51
I think teachers and administrators are falling way behind the technology curve.

I would agree, and would love to have learned more of your thoughts. Certainly we are trying hard. But are we trying hard enough! You should be getting an education that is appropriate for you and your time right now.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:16:02
He is very hard to understand at points, he appears to be weilding an american accent.

I'm sorry about this. Actually, I thought I was the only one without an accent ;-)

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:16:08
I agree with Andrew.

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:16:17
i agree with andrew. anyone using a steaming video conference is BEHIND.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:16:18
true but our teachers try hard

Certainly we are trying hard. But are we trying hard enough! You should be getting an education that is appropriate for you and your time right now.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:16:33
i think that before we can decide to take technology as our main source of education we have to make sure we can provide it to everyone

I have mixed feelings about this. Compasionately speaking, you are right -- and providing everyone access to digital networked information should be among the very highest priorities for your country and mine. But we need to start learning to use technology (digital networked information) for teaching and learning now. This means using it were we can and with whom we can.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:16:47
Good point

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:16:50
imo we need a new curriculum altogether

I agree with you, to a degree. There is much that I was taught 45 years ago, that continues to be valuable to me. At the same time, there is probably much more that I have had to teach myself since then. Anyway, who should develop that "new curriculum?" Are we capable of doing that? Would it be possible for students to participate? This is a vexing problem.

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:16:56
I agree with Andrew but i think the teachers are trying, the smart board were recently installed in our school

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:16:57
But Amir

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:17:14
A educational system, as it stands, is still not avaliable to everyone.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:17:23
true

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:17:23
WE have to jump right into, if we wait, by the time we do get into it, its already moved on

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:17:23
"were recently installed". that's kinda sad, considering it's available elsewhere.

What is equally sad to me, is schools where technology is used to drill and kill the students so that they can perform well on the government tests, and in other schools students are learning to use technology to publish books, make videos, produce podcasts, and blog to a global audience.
Is this another digital divide?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:17:36
If we wait for everyone else to catch up, it will hurt us.

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:17:47
lol are they? Then i guess we're not doing as good as we thought

Rick (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:17:51
What program is he using on his Mac for this presentation?

It was a new web-based presentation tool called Prezi (http://prezi.com/)

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:17:54
there are many people who dont have basic literary skills though, i think they should be attended to first before we upgrade everything

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:17:57
skype?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:17:59
Haha, I think we just got a few smartboards also.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:18:04
Uhm, possibly Skype.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:18:07
true but those who are not able to pay for laptops or at home internet service would always be behind so in some sense we would be excluding others

My country made the decision several years ago that all children should learn to read. In the next few years, virtually all of the information that you need on a daily basis to accomplish your goals will be networked and digital, and exclusively networked and digital. Anyone without access to the technology to access this technology and the skills to use that technology, "may as well not know how to read." For the same reason we have decide to make all children readers, we should make sure that all families have access to digital networked information.

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:18:08
actually no, if he was using skype, this would be better.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:18:19
The school would have to provide them.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:18:26
Or the students could use a good old pencil and paper.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:18:28
Jesskat makes a good point, you make things universal and you get result

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:18:36
YEAH LYNDON. pencil and paper :)

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:18:49
Maybe we will exclude a certain percentage but so much of the world is run with/by computers we cant afford to wait for them

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:19:01
Andrew is right.

I agree with Andrew as well. It is common to say to teachers who are learning to use basic technologies, "small steps, small steps!" We do not have time for small steps. You should not be graduating from your high school without 21st century skills.

rebecca (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:19:11
i want do not want to just learn facts, i want to learn why things are said and done the way thet are.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:19:14
As sad as it may be, some people will have to be left behind.

You're much to young to be a cynic.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:19:17
yeah but if we work in that sort of community what would we be saying about ourself

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:19:23
people are doing their best to include the world in ever growing technology. one laptop per child, anyone?

It's a start!

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:19:27
Over time, the amount of people left out will be less and less.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:19:39
Ahh, nice point Clint.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:19:39
ya maybe we don"t have to wait for them to catch up but i think everyone has a right to basic education

The question is, what constitutes a basic education?

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:19:52
thats true

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:19:53
agreed

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:19:56
I agree with Janelle

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:20:05
Janelle, then are we to create a bigger gap between public and private schools?

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:20:10
is it right that we always improve our lives when others are suffering

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:20:19
I agree with you, but I think we should develop this thought.

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:20:22
THInk of things that use computers: your car, ngineering, music production, traffic control, security, transportation systems, our social lives

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:20:38
everyone HAS a right. when it comes to technology, we have the basics. right now, we're just in a mode of preferance. we can always go and use old macs and windows 95 computers. that is, i believe "the basics"

This is one of the conversations that is happening in the edublogsophere. Do we need the latest greatest for achieve the learning experiences our students need. I am typing this on the plane home, using a laptop (netbook) computer that is probably three or four years old in terms of its technology.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:20:58
Haha, but son't think basics have to work properly =P

rebecca (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:20:59
i agree with janelle

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:21:03
do you guys think that we are going to lean on technology too much and cause our selves to become dependant on it

It's a good question that also came out of the teachers' chat -- and I don't think that the answer is simple. Some technologies we'll need to rely on as our world changes. Of others, we have to be careful. Some video games can be addictive to some players. On the otherhand, I have to depend on my eye glasses and my spell checker.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:21:04
thanx

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:21:07
Why use the basics? the basics cant fulfill modern demands

Should we be satisfied with the basics? It's a good question.

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:21:14
The problem technology is developing to fast

This is a problem. Technology companies compete with each other by innovating. This means that technology continues to advance at an increasing rate. So it makes the question about basic even more salient. Is basic enough, with regard to tech. In a sense, netbooks have been an exception, where laptops have always been sold based on new features, new power, new styles. Yet the biggest selling genre of laptop now are the netbooks -- which are even more popular in Europe than North America.

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:21:27
i'm not saying to use them. someone mentioned we don't have the basics. well, we do.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:21:30
maybe later advance butlets do it together

D.Schulz (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:21:39
i think we already are relying on technology...

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:21:54
i agree with clint, new tyoe of technology is coming out every week

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:21:58
Technology is a big part of our lives.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:22:00
thats so true, so many people depend on technology

I would love to have asked Ya'll, "What is technology?"

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:22:07
yeah

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:22:07
I think we expect too much of our schools, to always keep up.

This is a fair point. However, isn't that the job of our schools. Is it to do the best that they can? ..or to do the best for our children?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:22:19
But we have to keep in mind that they are also on budget.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:22:23
it may cause problems for us in the future

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:22:34
waiting?

rebecca (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:22:41
there is so much technology information to be learned in so little time

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:22:44
well, it makes sense that we expect too much of them. i mean, wouldn't you complain if your school had nothing yet the school next door had brand spanking new computers?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:22:59
True enough, but there shouldn't that be a big of a gap.

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:23:10
which is why all schools in the city should be made to have the same technological advancements

I agree with this theoretically. But at a certain level, schools should also be encouraged to experiment, trying more exotic technologies for teaching and learning. That's how we'll learn what working and what isn't.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:23:19
What I meant was that, our school should be updated, but not everytime a new piece of technology comes out.

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:23:22
the technology in school doesn't have to be "spanking new" it just has to be adequate

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:23:24
yeah but education cant change the only thing that changes is the way its delivered

Hmmm! Has the definition of "being educated" changed? Consider that when my grandfather graduated from college, there were very few books available to him anywhere. Being educated meant knowledge in his head. When my daughter graduated from college, she was almost literally swimming in information. A global electronic library of content is available to her anytime through her pocket (her Blackberry). Does that change what it means to be educated?

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:23:32
Perhaps then funds need to be added, or reorganized within our education system

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:23:38
Oh education CAN change.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:23:40
some people study better when they get it on paper not on the computer

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:23:46
you have to start somewhere, might aswell just get simple computers and make sure that all students are trained in their basic uses

Many very exciting and potently educational things can be done with very basic computer technology.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:23:48
Education is simply the information given to us and such

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:23:50
those people can print it

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:23:52
I say we make Windows and Mac open-sourced. Send the development code to tech instructors at public school boards. See what happens :)

That's an interesting thought. Many of the tools we are now using are open source, and I know of some school districts with staff who are participating the the software's development. I know of one high school where students developed the school's web site, which was a very sophisticated interactive site using PHP and MySQL backend.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:24:00
also it gives you freedom when you work on paper because you can take it anywhere you want

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:24:01
Haha, Clint hasa good idea

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:24:09
Schools use microsoft and such

Increasingly, they are using OpenOffice and Google Docs and other web-based applications.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:24:13
but why not OpenOffice?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:24:16
It's free and such

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:24:21
and can open all the windows documents

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:24:34
it's a good alternative. and free.

D.Schulz (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:24:52
we may depend on our technology, but we're just being lazy. we dont need all those expensive things out there...we can make due with wat we hav

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:24:54
Yes, OO is a good choice.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:25:03
thats right

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:25:06
We also have to consider our enviroment.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:25:08
i agree

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:25:11
WE cant make due without it

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:25:17
public school boards should be considering the best alternatives and choices. we don't always have to buy chevorlets or GMs. toyotas are just as good ;)

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:25:19
Microsoft office isnt free

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:25:24
D. Schulz is right, soon we'll be depending on technology for everything

There is always the chance that we will become too dependent on technology. Science Fiction literature has told this story for years. But I disagree with the lazy part. For the most part, tech has not made us more lazy. It's made us more productive. I can do far more in less time. The fact is, I'm doing far more, but spending the same amount of time. What ever happened to the four-hour work day.

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:25:28
some of these things ARE SO RIDICULOUS

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:25:32
and therefore all schools are able to connect start simple then move to possibly making more complex technologies available to students

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:25:35
i think we have to definitelly remember about our environment

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:25:38
SGOLIEN, we're talking about OpenOffice, it's a free alternative.

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:26:27
People are becoming lazy, but the technology keeps updating, apple has come out with an envirometally friendly laptops now

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:26:33
What would the environment be without the technology

D.Schulz (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:26:34
just a question, exaclty wat does the enviroment have to do with technology...?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:26:49
If we move to the Artic

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:26:55
it's hard to survive without some form of technology

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:26:58
well we use it to create the technology

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:27:03
and by artic, I move HIGH HIGH HIGH north

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:27:23
like north of the north?

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:27:27
the parts and sources needed to create a computer

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:27:27
Yes

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:27:30
the only reason you'd have to upgrade would be when new, major technological advancements are released

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:27:38
It's near impossible to survive there without some form of technology

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:27:43
like new major, so major you'd be using it for years.

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:27:53
we use the enviroment to create materials, in the factories it produces carbon dioxide to make these laptops

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:27:55
there's no real need to go out and buy a whole new set of computers because they're semi-bio-degradable now or something :P

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:27:56
Let it be weaponry, warmth, and such

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:28:18
weaponry? please elaborate on that.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:28:18
Aaron has a nice point =P

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:28:39
To survive

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:28:41
Like

D.Schulz (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:28:41
the only reason we upgrade to new technology is because we want it, not necessarily need it

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:28:47
oh. mah bad, then. carry on.

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:28:47
kids growing up with technology scan books with an F pattern, kids who dont scan in a Z pattern. random fact

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:28:51
Against the polar bears, since they will attack you if you are alone

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:28:53
the only time it'd really be necessary to upgrade would be when something as big as (using microsoft as an example) XP to Vista or somethign

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:28:55
for food, and so on and so forth

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:28:57
I agree Schulz!

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:29:22
jesskat, what do you mean, F and Z pattern?

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:29:30
In class the smartboard broke, i convinced my teacher to do things the old fashon way, for once

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:29:37
WHat exactly are we considering tyechnology, its not just computers

This is an excellent question and at the heart of a lot of the conversations we are having in education. According to Allan Kay, "Technology is anything that was invented after you were born." If that's true, then what's technology to us, isn't for you.

D.Schulz (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:29:59
how bout a chalkboard, sgodlien!!!

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:30:03
Technology does make things mor efficient, hence why we prefer using it a majority of the time.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:30:06
exactly!

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:30:10
there'd be no real need to move to anything above a computer

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:30:12
"Technology is a broad concept that deals with an animal species' usage and knowledge of tools and crafts, and how it affects an animal species' ability to control and adapt to its environment."

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:30:24
i got that from wikipedia :P how ironic

It's a good definition since some animals make and use tools.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:30:31
IT'S FAKE

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:30:33
DON'T USE IT

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:30:35
=P

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:30:36
sometimes just because something is more efficient doesn't mean its the best way

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:30:42
Don't trust wikipedia, the BANE OF THE INTERNET

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:30:43
XD

I can't believe ya'll are dis'ing Wikipedia. It is probably the most vetted source of information in the world. Sure it can be unreliable, but reliability is not just based on the source, but also on the need. For some things I am doing, the reliability of Wikipedia is fine. But if I'm writing an article or something like that, I can't cite Wikipedia in the end notes, so I can't use it. Wikipedia is an amazing information source. You just have to understand what it's good at and what it isn't good at.

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:30:43
i mess with it all the time hahaha

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:30:49
Wikipedia is evil (says the teachers)

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:30:56
Technology will allow us the ability to adapt to computers, inside, and the environment outside will be neglected as a result

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:30:57
when half the time we're trying to figure out the technology, we could get more done with a pen, paper, and a book. yes it takes more effort to write rather than type, but its more efficient

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:31:18
But if we know the technology, it's much more efficient than writing

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:31:21
how is writing with a pen vs writing on the computer more efficient?

bgaw (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:31:23
technology is evil

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:31:32
you're typing more words out on the computer.

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:31:37
how is it more effiecient than writing?

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:31:50
WTPM is much more faster and efficient than WWPM

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:31:51
yet it's also more efficient to use a computer or some form of technology to pull up your information instead of dissecting a book

D.Schulz (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:31:52
because we can sit on our A** and do nothing:P

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:31:52
tchnology is evil?

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:31:55
you have to learn it some time, when the computer crashes and you spend 45 mins fixing it, you could have covered half the lesson

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:32:00
qualuity not quantity

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:32:02
Compare someone typing on the computer to someone writing on paper, you can type faster than you can write

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:32:19
way to rephrase my point, lyndon -_-

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:32:31
Sorry, I was replying to someones point and wasn't reading XD

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:32:37
woops i mean typing is way more efficient than writing, and easier to read for most of us

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:32:38
but people who type fast dont think as much

I completely disagree with this. My typing speed is much closer to my thinking speed. So typing, in a sense, is a thinking practice. Word processing is about processing what you want to say -- which is to say, thinking about what you want to say. Writing is about the mechanics of scratching letters onto paper.

Rick (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:32:41
Just because something scares you does not make it evil

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:32:42
CULTURE AND ART FTW

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:32:46
and thanks to spellcheck, i have no need to actually learn how to spell something

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:32:51
Sometimes you learn better if you write something down. I know I do.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:32:55
I agree samantha! Even teachers spend a good portion of class time trying to fix/understand new or old technology being used

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:32:59
yeah while a person on a computer is bound to rooms and power while people who write on paper allows you to go anywhere and write.

Yet, I'm typing this into a laptop computer at 36,000 feet somewhere between Edmonton and Chicago -- without power.

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:33:02
people seem to forget that we've gained alot from our access to information via technology...schoolzone graphiong calculators look at how much more we've gained

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:33:07
Not true janelle

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:33:19
Amir: Laptop? bluetooth?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:33:23
when I type, I think as I go along, if I don't find something fit, I'll go back and change it

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:33:40
writing out what you're learning instead of mindlessly typing it helps it stick in your head, instead of going in one ear and out the other.

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:33:42
Amir, there's no reason to go with one or the other, but it IS necessary to know how to use both

There is a lot of wisdom in that.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:33:47
I think so, when i do a report on the computer i don"t think as much.

If all you are doing is just writing it, and then turning it in, then I might agree with you. But if you are using a computer to edit, revise, and refine you're work, then you are thinking a whole lot more.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:33:49
ok fine, they still need to be charged and maintained

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:33:56
i agree with lyndon, why are you guys so scared about computers

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:33:56
would anyone be able to go a day without using technology??

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:34:03
Okay guys

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:34:08
computers are quite young when compared to the advancements made when it comes to the choices we have while writing. of course what we have is not going to be just like what we used to have. but that's why there is room for improvement.

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:34:09
no, but its not always more efficient

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:34:09
We can safley assume, this is different for everyone

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:34:13
Not scared just to dependent

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:34:16
Everyone has different capabilities and such

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:34:21
Schultz- I have! Anyone gone camping?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:34:27
So, I'd like to place down a ground rule.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:34:38
u still use technology to some degree...

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:34:50
Our generation has become lazy, due to technology

I do not agree. Playing video games involved a LOT more work than sitting and watching television, which is how my generation spent its early years. If technology has made your school work easier, then that's because we (educators) haven't used technology to make it more challenging.

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:34:57
the world is turning to technology, what happens when students who have not learned to use computers go out in the work force and have no experience with the technology that is everywhere? we need to start teaching in our schools information to go with where the world is heading.

They will be at a dramatic disadvantage. I would suggest, as well, that students who have not grown up playing video games may also be at a disadvantage.

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:34:59
Jpercy... exactly

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:35:07
When we talk about ttechnology here, and anything related, we should place ourselves in a position where we have basic knowledge of computers, nothing more.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:35:17
Like we said, its all choice, Everyone has a choice to use what is presented to them

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:35:22
JPP: What is there to assume that there will be people who are not used to technology in a few years?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:35:26
So we can keep our topics on the same level, and actually acheive something

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:35:34
THEres a fine line between lazy and the ability to do more, if the computer can check our spelling, that saves us timeto do more

Bingo!

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:35:35
Yeah, Lyndon. Totallya gree on that.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:35:37
I love technology but I'm afraid that it will get out of hand. that our entire lives will be based not around people but around computers

What makes me shutter, is the technologies that will be available ten years from not, that we haven't even imagined yet.
This is a legitimate concern. But it's why education is so important. People who do not understand technology and its limitations and implications, may be less like to use to wisely. This is why, although I disagree with your claims of laziness, it is an important issue. My generation lazily (and stupidly) invested all of its evenings to television sit-coms. Many in your generation are using their evenings developing cool software, populating Wikipedia, creating entertaining videos and interesting mashups, and at least engaging in conversations.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:35:43
why not just limit our amount to havin access to technology...

China is trying to do that. Online video games switch off after so much time.

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:35:43
I'm all for getting as much new technological advancements as possible though really we need them to keep up with how much things are changing otherwise we're going to fall too far behind

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:07
Okay, I have a question

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:12
Who here is on the video conference

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:15
As a school?

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:36:17
technology is good but I agree with janelle, its gonna get out of hand at some point

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:26
where are you folks from? :P

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:30
M.E

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:31
Okay

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:33
I want everyone here

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:33
roll call anyone? lol.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:37
that is on the video

bgaw (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:36:37
Out of hand being implanting computer chips in people!!

I agree with you. I think that this would be a mistake. But I also accept the chance that I am wrong. What if I could insert a chip behind my ear and instantly be able to speak in fluent Spanish? What if I could increase my memore with such a chip. What if such a chip could constantly monitor my health, signaling a chance for infection or cancer? If my wife died of cancer and such a chip could have saved him, how would I feel then?

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:36:39
FOr the most part, and im making a generalization, if you want to to make a decent living, computers are essential

This is probably very true. But what I think is more true is, "If you want to make a descent living, you have to be willing to keep, keep, keep learning." Alvin Tofler (famous philosopher and futurist) says that literacy in the future will not be those who can read and write, but those who can learn, unlearn, and relearn.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:39
to reaise their hand

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:40
*raise

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:36:43
it's not a choice if your teachers are using smart boards and having lessons presented on them. they dont work half the time

That's a problem that needs to be solved.

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:36:48
i believe that technology has made the poputaion lazy. but it can also be veiwed as a very positive thing if we learn to use it in a way that is possitive for society.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:36:57
I want to see which school we are talking with

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:36:58
soo aaron, being all up for the new stuff..is just a trend? u want it because everyone else has it...why not save urself the heart ache...?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:37:07
Okay, On 3

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:37:15
READY GUYS

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:37:17
skjd

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:37:36
we're from ross sheppard

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:37:45
OKAY raise hands on 3

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:37:48
I think it would be a smart decision to improve our technology in schools, but not to the extent that we become completely dependent on it. What if one day the system crashes, then what?

Yeah! But I'm sure there was a time in history where some body, who was employeed to chizel text in stone said, "Yeah, but what if your fancy dancy paper library catches on fire? Then what?" Of course, the Library of Alexandria did catch on fire, and it set us back. But we dealt with it. Good teachers and learners will too.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:37:49
experienced teachers on Smart boards are really good and fast at showing their lessons and helps them to save time in the classroom

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:37:50
1

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:37:54
this fails, lyndon.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:37:55
2

Sid de Haan (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:37:57
is everyone able to follow David Warlick's conversation?

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:37:59
its not the trend its the change in the way information is processed i'm not saying get the newest thing on the market i am saying that you need to keep up with the major advancements

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:38:00
People also have a choice to see technology as out of hand or acceptable and convinient

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:38:01
3

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:38:02
GO

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:38:03
XD

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:38:27
Just kidding guys, I'm kidding

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:38:31
Okay, so for technolgoy

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:38:46
Oh, and to the guy earlier, yes we can follow along

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:38:52
no you just got shut down when nobody listened to you

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:39:07
*bam*

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:39:21
ross shep is awesome

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:39:23
Ah, you guys can't take a joke XD

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:39:30
i like this guy on the webcam

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:39:37
Haha, is this his son?

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:39:40
yeah

Carmen Davies (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:39:47
YEA WE ARE

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:39:47
Haha, nice

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:39:52
wait to get off topis everyone....i thought this was about technolgy..

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:39:59
this is.

Carmen Davies (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:40:03
*shep

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:40:03
lol, yeah

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:40:07
we're discussing the discussion

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:40:12
that's gonig on at the conference

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:40:15
*going.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:40:17
We were, then got distracted by that video

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:40:27
This can be considered a CON to technology in schools. Distractions are easily obtained.

Dealing with distraction, and sometimes benefitting from distraction is an important skill to learn.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:40:28
hmmm...

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:40:30
Okay so, back on topic XD

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:40:43
Sgodlien: Right, and there aren't distractions without technology?

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:40:51
I'm guessing you haven't heard of a class clown, then.

EXCELLENT Point!

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:40:53
Jess: technology encourages people to self teach?

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:41:01
the teachers waste half their lesson time in class trying to get thier computers and smartboards to do what they want.

Either this is a problem that needs to be solved, or your teachers will get much better at this.

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:41:03
i think that's not quite how that kind of tecnology was meant to be used(referring to the kid in the video)

The point was not the video itself, but that he learning how to make that video through his networked connections -- his broader social network.

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:41:04
but most of the time the distraction is technology, right?

There's nothing wrong with having fun. You know, sometimes learning can even be fun.
Did I say that out loud?

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:41:06
I wouldn't call technology a threat. It's more exciting to me.

Sid de Haan (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:41:23
We'd love to hear your feedback to what David is talking about.

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:41:24
Samantha: Efficiency is low. Makes sense. This is new stuff.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:41:26
Yes there is deistractions outside of technology, but without computers there is no world wide web while your trying to write and essay

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:41:29
Technology can encourage self teaching.

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:41:35
TEchnology has ton or purposes, entertainemnt is a valid a real reason to use it

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:41:37
I agree with Samantha some teachers are like that, but thats why they should get lessons on how to use the technology

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:41:45
You don't just learn the lesson in a class

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:41:48
i think that we are using technology to save time and make our lives easier

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:41:49
you can write a essay with a pen and paper

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:41:51
He makes good points, but the video of his son the point wasn't fully clear

Again, it was that he taught himself how to do it. I wonder if we, educators, really need to worry about teaching you the technology. Aren't you capable of teaching yourself how to use computers? We should concentrate on the curriculum utilizing the technology, where appropriate.

Sid de Haan (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:42:13
Are you able to see and hear the video okay?

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:42:15
Sgodlien: true, because there isn't now. what's to say there weren't huge distractions 50 years ago?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:42:17
Yes, but if you use technology to write an essay, you have easier access to sources

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:42:21
they do get the lesson it doesnt mean that the lesson works, everyone has technological difficulties

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:42:24
the point was that his son learned to rap through being connected to other people through technology...right?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:42:28
We can see, but sometimes the audio quality is subpar

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:42:38
the only reason there aren't is because people are used to essay situations. governing them, i mean.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:42:38
South Korea?

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:43:01
i think that the problem with trying to integrate technology now is that many of the teachers are not fully educated about the technology befor they try to teach with it.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:43:04
there are people out there who dont have food to eat, i dont expect them to buy a laptop just so they can use free wireless

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:43:08
facebook is just a way for complete strangers, to get more close or involved in someone elses personal life...its not safe...

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:43:19
can we not mention facebook here, please?

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:43:23
the people that can't afford food can't afford education

Carmen Davies (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:43:23
thats not true

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:43:25
You can also ignore those people, Dana

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:43:27
South Korea has all wireless technology

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:43:28
*is trying to save topic from diversions*

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:43:31
we only like it because its there,..and theres games

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:43:41
those who have the ability to go to school should be able to afford a basic computer aswell

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:43:41
education is free

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:43:41
for that matter if the government is spending so much on tech why don;'t thay feed there people instead

There are communities that were starving a dozen years ago, but prospering now by marketing their crafts globally through the web sites they maintain wirelessly in their dirt floored huts.

Carmen Davies (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:43:47
facebook helps to keep in touch with the people you already know

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:43:48
whats wrong with facebook, you cant talk to someone unless you know them

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:43:59
i use facebook to communicate to people about school things...it's useful..

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:05
people who cant afford food believe that the only way that they will gain anything in life is to get an education and change their life for the better

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:06
Question for everyone...who here plays games on there cell phone?

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:07
I play video games maybe once a month. I'm getting too busy to play.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:10
not true, tones of ppl add eachother....without even knowing them...

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:11
gaming increases isolation?

It's not been my experience, watching my children. They are more connected to their friends because they can play vgames together -- and when they have the choice, they get together physically (lanparties).

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:44:13
question for everyone

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:44:14
I don't play games on my cell

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:15
Facebook- Anyone can see your photo albums- that is not a good thing

Kar-Wing (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:44:16
facebook is safe. you can screen out those you dont want to see your profile

Students have told me that they use Facebook to protect themselves, to control who has access to them.

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:44:19
who HAS a cell phone?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:44:25
I have a cell

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:28
you can set limitations on facebook.

Alanna (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:28
Facebook is another form of technical communication. If used safely it could be inegrated into the school system to aid in communication.

Carmen Davies (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:29
you have achoice as to who you add

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:29
its a trend thats all

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:33
i do

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:44:33
Sgoldien - You can make it so only friends can see photos

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:36
Video games are awesome, they just haven't designed one that I can't beat so I gave up on them

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:44:37
Jesskat: Gaming increases isolation? O_O

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:40
education is not always free, how much does it cost for a bus pass to get to school, school supplies, child care, etc the list goes on,

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:46
i agree alanna, we use it so much at shep for SU and stuff

rebecca (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:46
facebook is good for communication but is not safe.

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:44:50
what are you on about? party games? Mario kart? ROCK BAND?

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:44:51
Facebook may not be completely safe but neither is taking public transport that doesn't stop us from using it

This is an excellent point. I'd not thought of it that way.

Emily Dutton () • 2009-03-09 10:44:57
Facebook is useful for telling students about events in the school

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:44:58
Well That is what I thought, but it not always the case.

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:45:01
Video games can be a learning tool because there fun and very stimulating.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:45:11
good point sam...why would we want to bother to buy a new comp...when we have already all these extra costs..

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:45:14
on facebook the pictures you put on it, facebook can use any of those pictures for their own good when ever they feel like it

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:45:14
i think you need technolgy for a school use and yes maybe for some entertainment value but so many people use it as an excuse not to actually interact with the people around them they would rather use text then have an actual conversation

I'm not defending such behavior, but this is not new. I'm not sure that it's because of the technology that people might not develop social skills. There have always been folks who were late developing these skills. Could it be that with tech they are having conversations, where they might not have any otherwise -- they'd just watch TV or play video games alone all the time. I'm just wondering.

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:45:21
there are educational video games too!!!

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:45:27
but who many people genuinley use them as a learning tool?

To me, this is at the heart of one of the main issues we are trying to understand. Just because it doesn't look or feel like the classroom or textbook, does it mean that you are not learning when playing video games or interacting through your social networks. I think maybe you are learning things and learning them very effectively. It's not our curriculum and some of it may not be appropriate learning. But it may be very effective learning. We need to try to understand this and figure out the qualities of these experiences and then try to integrate those qualities into the learning experiences of the classroom. Not that we need to bring Facebook into the classroom or video games, but the active qualities of those experiences.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:45:29
there is no privacy

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:45:31
but they arn't always, people care about money not how stimulating a game is

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:45:38
only certain games teri, not games like left for dead or shooter games, or even sport games

Emily Dutton () • 2009-03-09 10:45:38
Brain age

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:45:39
yes but how many people are using those its getting to be less and less

rebecca (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:45:41
how are video games useful?

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:45:49
there not.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:45:58
They can help increase hand eye coordination

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:45:58
Jesskat: They aren't used as an educational tool, unless you're in elementary.

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:46:05
video games are purely entertainment

Ah, but research is showing that you are learning a lot, such as problem solving skills, analytical thinking, critical thinking, etc.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:46:06
How quickly you can respond to something

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:46:07
most video games made are for personal use

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:46:09
If a person want to isolate him/her self thats her perrogative, its not our responsibility to make sure that persons social life is what we think is proper

Alanna (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:46:11
At Shep in our sciences department we often use educational video games to aid in the lesson plan. It is helpful for visual learners.

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:46:13
that was like that episode of the weekenders when lor couldn't buckle down and study, and then carver saves the day by bringing a war video game that required her to know dates and stuff!!!

bgaw (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:46:17
they provide entertainment which is a nessesity of life.

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:46:21
Alanna: That's cool :)

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:46:21
Brainpop anyone?

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:46:23
the educational ones are awesome its how i learned to read and do basic math for the most part but i have neices and nephews who have no idea what an educational game is

There is a new genre of video game out there called "Serious Games," An example is Food Force, where you play a relief worker, and your job is to help your ravaged village survive. You make sure that the supplies are coming in, properly stored, and efficiently distributed. If you make mistakes, people starve. There are manymore like that.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:46:25
Not a videogame, but still

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:46:25
thats my point, clint

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:46:32
Well, Honestly in a hypathetical sittuation, if you are paying fees for your child to go to schoolm, wouldnt you want a say in what that school spends its money on

Hypothetically and in the spirit of the democracy that makes public education possible, I agree with you. But consider that education today in a time of rapid change is a complex endeavor -- perhaps even more complex than we currently realize. That said, your teachers have at least a college degree, and many of them have graduate degrees. The school administrators and curriculum leaders all have graduate degrees with decades of experience in most cases. Who's more qualified to design your learning environment.
It is my opinion that one fo the problems with education today is that it is being run by amateurs. We need to turn it back over to the educators and provide them with the resources and time to retool for the 21st century.

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:46:41
Jess: :)

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:47:06
absolutley

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:47:20
ya but try getting everyone to agree on what they wnt to ba taught

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:47:22
to a degree, you do pay fees to go to school

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:47:28
sgodlien...u rock my knowledge...im always curious to know what t he school buys with our money..

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:47:38
everything has a good and a bad side to it... it's the point of veiw we choose to take on it that makes the differrence. for example, facebook can be good, but people can also waste hours on the computer. its all about personal choice.

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:47:40
yes, for textbooks

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:47:41
if you choose to take a computer course, you pay fees to use technology

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:47:49
and?

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:47:59
"Information does not come free"

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:48:01
not at page, aaron

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:48:17
every school is different

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:48:24
Just putting this out there, does it seem like more money is spent on bringing up people in the lower educational performance bracket rather than helping those who are doing well

This is one of the complaints about our education system under "No Child Left Behind" that under the best of intentions we are working to bring up the lower achieving students "at the expense of the high achieving and the arts, creativity, problem solving, etc." We need to be paying for both of them.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:48:29
not when it comes to technology it isnt

rebecca (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:48:32
nothing really come free anymore.

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:48:41
maybe it needs to be balanced

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:48:43
agreed

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:48:47
agreed aaron, but we are also a technology school,

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:48:56
Percy, look at it this way

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:48:59
the point of helping the 'lower educational performanced' is to bring about equality between everyone

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:49:03
Who is defining this lower level of educational performance?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:49:14
If the school charges a small fee, then the school can use that money to upgrade

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:49:18
i dont see why schools are wasting money on smart boards, when some of the students are living below the poverty level and struggling enough just to get to school

Ya'll are having a very interesting conversation. It is WAY off topic, but very interesting.

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:49:29
if we just focused on the super geniuses and no one else, nothing would be achieved

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:49:37
Computers are one of the best learning devices because you can explore various possible pathways and usually get an immediate response.

The early developers of the first electronic computers didn't want to call them "computers." They wanted to call them "Universal Engines." They believed, even back then, that computer could ultimatly be programmed to do or be almost anything. That makes it an amazing learning tool.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:49:49
Andrew, so ur saying that we're spending all the money on the low-educated ppl...for there education and not enough on the higher educated ppl?

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:49:52
the school believe thAT NEW EQUIPMENT CAN HELP STUDENTS LEARN

It's not that "new equipment" can help students learning. It's new learning experiences, made possible with new equipment that can help students learn. It's one part technology, one part creativity/inventiveness, and one part training of educators.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:50:01
Immediate responses may be what you want to hear but not always correct

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:50:08
can you not say that the "higher level" students shouldn't be technologically learned?

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:50:09
im saying its not balanced

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:50:18
i think the money should be focused on having EVERYONE comprehend the ciriculum and maybe spend money on tutors instead of technological advancement

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:50:25
same here

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:50:55
maybe but obvoiusly most as ud say EDUCATED ppl probably already about the technology they need to get a great education...some ppl just cant afford to buy what some ppl may have,

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:50:56
Tutors are awsome, communication with others

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:50:58
samantha, its the students choice to go to a tutor

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:51:02
to be honest, the curriculum is out of whack for today

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:51:06
I think that we should focus on our ouwn countries education system, we should have to worry about, let's say, making so Africa has full access to computers in their education and such.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:51:09
(Verbally) is important

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:51:18
yes a tutor is available

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:51:19
exactly

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:51:25
Lets not get into politics please

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:51:25
I'm not saying ignore them, but we should worry about ourselves first

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:51:41
"what does it mean to be literate?"

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:51:42
yess

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:51:54
to be able to read

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:51:57
solve our problems before we work on others

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:52:01
i think that socially we would be isolating ourselves with others because we are so caught up in the computers we do not build on the needs for speaking with others and general communications

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:52:04
Literate- Reading and comprehending information

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:52:07
literacy is the ability to read and write

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:52:08
And to understand i think not just read

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:52:17
writing too?

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:52:25
if you worry about yourself first, what happens down the road when the people you didnt worry about are sucking off the welfare system, when in school they could have had the help to function properly in society

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:52:26
yes writting

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:52:29
writing is usually included with literacy

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:52:36
in order to read properly you must know the meanings and proper uses of words

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:52:45
this is also a key component in being able to write

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:52:49
the point is that students today, because of other technological advancements (video games, phones, ipods...) do not respond to the same things at previous students did. we're not really making these changes for us, but for the kids in elementary now who will be coming up when these changes are complete.

J Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:52:58
amir, technology builds a wall between communication

Interesting thought. My first impulse is to say that I disagree whole heartedly. However, you may be thinking of something that I am not. My response would be that old technology represented a barriers. The new technology provide the potential to make our classroom walls transparent.

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:53:05
agreed

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:53:12
I agree with JPP

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:53:20
It's goes with the saying, "the day gets dark before the sun comes up"

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:53:22
does the meaning of literacy change as we become mroe advanced though?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:53:25
This can be applied to technology

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:53:27
Samantha, see your smart. your understand the concept of helping everyone. if we;'re going to include technology in our lives, why not make it all around. its a trend...we all want it, and sometimes the ideas we ahve for learning can become very useful

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:53:33
there are two sides to every point, technology can build a wall, but it can also enhance communication

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:53:43
JPP- This is an example, can we carry on a single topic? This is a communication difficulty represented with a chat room

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:53:43
We will have a dark point now, where we rely too much on technology

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:53:51
But we will learn to use it wisely, and have a balance

Mandie (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:54:20
we kind of already do rely on too much technology i thihnk we should embrace it but not depend on it to do everything for us

Jenna Lee (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:54:20
my question is, why are we looking at technology like such a bad thing? we're not going to get rid of it any time soon, so why not embrace it?

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:54:22
agreed

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:54:32
but in the end, the idea of haveing better and newer tech comes down to money...

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:54:42
yes

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:54:44
What about carpel tunnel (not sure the spelling) Or other medical issues, epilepsy, ect.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:54:46
u hav to work to have the money...

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:54:51
jenna tehre's nothing saying that the internet can't crash tomorrow

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:54:52
we need to embrace it in time

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:54:56
That is one of the downpoints right now

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:55:03
We don't know how to balance between it

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:55:07
not all at once

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:55:11
So we spend to much time, and get carpal tunnel and such

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:55:16
y not cut down on the keeping up and focus on whats important, student learning, there's always going to be the latest and greatest technological advancement...

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:55:26
hey guys what doesn't any of this have to do with the conference

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:55:28
based on the speakers point i think that in high school we should be taught the "why" of things. Rather why things happened instead of this is how things work memorize the facts

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:55:29
yea if the internet crash, i can seeing it be a world wide...problem

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:55:29
that's my point

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:55:33
Samantha has a good point

Mandie (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:55:39
yes the sad thing is some people have money and some don't we do and therefore we need to use that to our advantage we need to make sure we do everything we can to develop with the technologies we can afford

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:55:43
Samantha- Teacher learning and keeping up as well

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:56:04
you DON'T need to stay 100% up to date with technology. MAJOR advances would be the only reason upgrading would be necessary

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:56:08
As long as the student can learn in the enviroment, there is no problem with introducing more technology

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:56:10
we still need the facts, not memorized but we need the examples they give

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:56:41
our learning is effected when the teachers are having problems keeping up with the biggest advancements in technology

Has a teacher ever asked you for help in using the technology. Teachers are learners too, and there's nothing wrong with their learning from you.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:56:41
well,who are the ones that come up with our "new technology"?

I think I said it earlier, that tech companies compete with each other for business by innovating -- coming up with the latest greatest

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:56:45
Smartboards are already being overused, doing the teaching for the teachers

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:56:49
we are.

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:56:49
but if we know how things work, examples may help but we won't forget facts

The problem with this is that the facts change. My grandfather was taught about molecules. My father was taught about Atoms. I was taught about electrons, and my children were taught about quarks. Each was little known to the previous generation -- and change is happening even faster. This is why, although memorization is an important skills, what you learn is not as important as it use to be. What is more important is how you learn. Are you learning how to find and evaluate the latest facts?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:56:58
Our classes don't use smartboards, thankfully

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:57:11
people will always be hungry for the 'newest thing'

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:57:13
Though, they will be nice for some things, there should be a limit

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:57:26
imo a smartboard counts as a latest advancement

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:57:26
smartboards are way better than a standard white board, if the teacher can use its potential

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:57:27
JessKat- That is a good thing

Mandie (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:57:28
not necessarily smartboards are an aid the teacher stil lhas to understand the information that they are putting into the smartboard

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:57:45
I can see this video being like Day After Tomorrow

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:57:47
but with technology

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:57:49
we should not forget how things have been done in the past it worked so why should we change it so much

Because you are different, today's information environment is different, and we can not clearly describe the future we are preparing you for. These are each brand new conditions.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:57:50
maybe every school should be given the same amount every year in order to purchase those new things....we want

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:57:53
Sitting and watching powerpoints for an hour everyday is not as exciting as it may seem

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:58:01
same amount of $$ i mean

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:58:21
Dana- Maybe the size of classes and school should be taken into consideration

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:58:31
definitelly

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:58:36
Size of classes and such depends on budget

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:58:41
smart boards are very good. we use them in english to edit on the screen, and in math to use the problems

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:58:44
exactly

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:58:45
yea but then what happens if some ppl cant get in...?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:58:47
Higher budget, more money to pay for teachers and such

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:58:52
not enough space..

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:58:59
i think there should be more rules to control and make technology more efficient for teachers and students.

This is an interesting idea. The fact is that most of the technologies used in classroom are adapted from technologies that were developed for business and industry. It's one of the things I like about the XO and to a less degree, the Netbooks. They are designed for individuals and predomantly for learning.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:59:03
it is much easier for teachers to teach if they have an acceptable amount of students that they can work with

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:59:20
maybe but its good to communicate with the students as well

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:59:20
Has there been a case where a school is actually too full? Recently?

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:59:30
thats a good way for learning

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:59:32
I say we go overboard with this. Desks should have built-in computers. Students should be forced to have access to at least 1 computer at home at all times

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 10:59:32
U.S. high schools?

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:59:49
yes, a school in edmonton is having to move students because of being over full

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:59:49
Canadian

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 10:59:49
uhh probably every class with more than 25 students

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 10:59:55
yea no, no offence but that i dea wouldnt work at all

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:00:02
Sgodlien: No, that was my reply

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:00:07
If one school is full, go to another

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:00:14
If all schools are full

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:00:16
schools never get too full, they will always keep it at a good level before accepting

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:00:17
then something is very wrong

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:00:22
i dont agree that we should have built in computers because it has too many restrictions on the computer

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:00:25
so are we funding schools or technology?

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:00:27
aaron- have you lost your mind? what makes you think that people can afford that?

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:00:28
overpopulation is fail guys

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:00:32
There should be a balance, Jess

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:00:33
we cant even do what we want

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:00:35
but that's offtopic

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:00:40
my school last year had wat...sam...how many 2500?

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:00:41
Aaron: bit too late for that xD

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:00:46
:3

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:00:58
Now that would be a good way to learn Othello. It must have been fun to produce.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:00:58
The amount of dropouts in Edmonton makes me think there is plenty of rooms in schools

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:01:03
Our school has around 2100 kids

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:08
dana -yes

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:01:09
Nice goldien XD

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:16
my school has 300

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:23
wow

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:01:25
where are you from, sgodlien?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:01:27
That's low

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:31
Lyndon, where do u go?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:01:34
M.E

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:35
my school had 2800 last year, giving every student a computer would cost way too much out of our tax paying money

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:36
That

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:37

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:43
off topic guys..

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:48
godlien- special example, most highschools in edmonton are verrrrry crowded

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:01:48
wow, J Percy Page has 1145

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:01:53
i'm

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:01:57
*i'm just curious.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:02:21
irrelivant, there are 10 kids in my bio and it is still sitting and looking at a power point, listening to lectures all day everyday while there is potential to have more one on one interaction for learning

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:02:28
**nevermind where people are from, stop asking

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:02:29
computers are used like typewriters, everything useful is blocked or restricted

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:02:31
20some in my bio class

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:02:33
"literacy habits" - agreed

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:02:41
godlien- awesome point

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:02:43
if we were given computers they always put restrictions. what Andrew said is so true

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:02:43
Nice point andrew

Mandie (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:02:44
and its not necessarily off topic the more students go to a school the harder it is to provide more money for technology

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:02:45
anyone ever thought of maybe changeing the way we learn?

Emily Dutton () • 2009-03-09 11:02:55
He makes a good point, schools need to prepare students for a technology based future that is inevitable

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:02:56
dana- how so

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:02:57
how so?

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:03:00
why not make the students to techers..

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:03:03
Then we would have to pull an overhaul on every system in education

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:03:14
Which would cost a lot of money and time

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:03:17
dana- what?

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:03:37
dana, do you know calcuslus?or social 30?how could you teach

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:03:38
let the students be the teachers.

OK, consider this. It's not that students would replace the teachers. It's that students would be tasked with making themselves an expert on some topic or sub-topic and then prepare some sort of presentation or information product that teaches that topic effectively to other students. Isn't that the way you'll be learning after school, by teaching yourself? Wouldn't this be an "authentic" way to learn in the classroom? Not all the time, but occassionally.

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:03:39
we are trying to introduce computers into a paper based system. Maybe we should be introducing paper into a computer based sytem

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:03:42
I think we all agree that by introducing new technology there'd have to be reforms in the curriculum right?

Ryley Bauer (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:03:45
who votes on getting rid of that stupid safepass or at least giving teacher access to unblock it for us, there's way too much stuff we can't use

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:03:53
If we let students be teachers, the first generation of that would be near failing

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:03:56
thats true

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:03:57
Compu

Teri (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:03:59
t

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:00
I know a lot of us would be fine

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:05
yeah, but that would be like opening pandora's box. way too much distractions.

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:04:10
safepass...

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:11
But would about a majoirty of the kids

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:15
Who dislike school and such

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:18
i personally hate the blocks, but i think it's useful.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:23
Same here

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:04:26
Safepass- yes- how many of you use hotmail and e mail yourself an essay or work

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:04:28
lol thats to funny, then for sure no one would be passing school

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:04:41
safepass has certain levels of restrictions

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:04:44
blocking games or explicit material yes, but there are alot of useful things that are blocked

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:04:46
its very usefull! many people would be on facebook or email or god knows what if the blocks wernt there

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:46
did you think of that before you said that, dana?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:47
Okay, coffee break

Mandie (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:04:47
students need that bit of authority to get themselves ahead.. we tend to get in our own way

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:51
Safepass is usefull

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:04:54
a majority of the time

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:05:04
Sometimes, it blocks usefull things

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:05:07
COFFEEEEEEEEEE!!!Profiles?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:05:15
Okay, coffee break guys

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:05:24
amen to that

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:05:26
Good discussion XD

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:05:50
over the past 10 years our society has become reliant upon technology ..... we used to be able to use pen and paper and survive ... and now if kids don't have a computer or a laptop they couldn't write and exam ... kids rely on colour stimulants and technology in order for them to even respond to what is happening around them

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:05:59
no, not really landon.lol

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:06:05
Haha well

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:06:07
umm yes it was.

Sid de Haan (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:06:07
Feel free to continue to converse. David will leave the knitter going for the next few minutes. The conversation is just getting good!

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:06:09
We did reach some points

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:06:13
we keep jumping around

David Warlick (NC) • 2009-03-09 11:06:14
Hi, I'm David, your out of town speaker. I hope you enjoyed that. We're leaving this running for a few more minutes.

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:06:21
DAVID ILU :D

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:06:24
Thank you David, it was very interesting

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:06:34
thank you,

Sid de Haan (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:07:03
We're going to be shutting down the video right away and then rebooting just so you know why you lose contact for a few minutes.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:07:12
Alright, thanks.

JessKat (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:07:25
Kat: I agree that what we need most is to learn how to teach ourselves in order to stay up to date.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:07:55
To everyone else; We did reach some good points, I'm glad. Of course, with this many people going on about technology, a lot of people get in side conversations.

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:07:58
i would like to know, during this coffee break.

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:08:03
where is everyone from?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:08:05
Regardless, we had some good points going on.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:08:12
I'm from M.E.LaZerte

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:08:19
I'm from M.E. also

Mandie (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:08:27
and me

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:08:45
any Queen E kids here?

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:08:46
Who has the white laptop in M.E?

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:09:02
They're the big video on our screen

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:09:03
hey buddy, lol

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:09:13
raise your hands if you're on video :D

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:09:15
I am waving

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:09:23
way2go, guyz.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:09:32
learn2wave

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:09:36
xD

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:09:40
icanwave. canyou?

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:09:40
raise yor hands up in the air, raise your hand up in the air

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:09:51
I think there needs to be more videos.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:10:00
Yeah haha

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:10:08
JPP, you in red shirt

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:10:11
?

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:10:32
no, i am wherein a nike hoodie

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:10:48
Did you wave?

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:10:49
did you just wave?

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:10:55
yes

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:10:59
Okay sweet

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:11:01
I'm on the MAC

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:11:04
j. percy page is in red / black and white

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:11:09
that's a very cool Mac, Lyndon.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:11:14
HAha thanks!

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:11:20
Which one are you B.S.

David Warlick (NC) • 2009-03-09 11:12:00
If you were talking to me, yes, I'm at the meeting, up from North Carolina...

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:12:17
i liked your presentation.

LYNDON (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:12:48
Same here, it was very well done.

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:13:32
David... what do you think are the main problems with integration of technology in schools

Time, vision, universal access, and resistance to change.

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:13:41
i am curious, exactly how did you refine Knitter for "educational purposes" ?

Hard to explain. I can program computers in PHP and sorta hacked the code of an open source chat program to make Knitter.

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:13:44
I think that the technology in our schools seperates us from the rest of the world

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:13:50
I think computers are under used, the programs they can be used for, in school are limitless, design, engineering, music, video, graphic design

rebecca (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:14:04
i think technology is not giving us healthy life choices

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:14:19
so many people feel inferior because they don't understand or have access to computers

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:14:41
i think that the computers we dont use any more (most of the time) get sent to third world countries to be taken apart and initially harm the people there with different cancers and harmful bacteria.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:15:03
Because of people no making healthy choices with technology thre are restirictions

Andrew WIlkes (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:15:07
our school totally lacks any of the useful programs, all we can do is essentially typea document or google something without being able to see the results

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:15:17
me likey restrictions

rebecca (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:15:35
unhealthy

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:15:55
some restrictions make sense but to much make people restless and eager to get past them

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:16:09
i think that if we're supposed to run the world we shouldn't be restricted because that to me says they don't trust us

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:17:00
Well, teachers will not risk letting off restrictions because of past negligance for basic human rights (lesser politics)

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:17:11
wont' we get distracted easily?

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:17:28
*comment to idea of doing knitter/audio discussion*

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:17:35
If we use it for non educational purposes for sure ... It would be everyones personal disipline

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:17:45
you can do graphic design and stuff... is there not a CTS course?

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:17:49
no, i was not making a point for debate. just raising an inquiry

Aaron (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:17:50
there'd have to be a certain level of maturity one would need to resist getting distracted

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:18:02
exactly

Kowsar Warsame (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:18:06
its unfair that some people's negligence should effect everyone else's right

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:18:08
we're going to depend on not getting distracted in the future why not start now?

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:18:20
I agree!

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:18:37
technological advances are inevitable .... but it is that way in which we use them that can lead to our downfall or to our advancement

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:18:39
but that level of maturity just doesnt come out... how would you know about these restirictions if you didnt try to access restricted sites

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:19:29
Well Hotmail is restricted, that is useful in school, in my opinion

Janelle Adcock (CN) • 2009-03-09 11:19:30
restricted sites arn't necessarily bad and anyway almost everysingle announcement says this

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:19:35
w

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:19:41
*oops.

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:19:51
how would hotmail be usefull

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:20:24
E mailing yourself schoolwork from home, being able to ask questions on government websites and being able to get a response

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:20:46
i agree that hotmail would be usefull, im sure some other sites that are blocked would be. i would like to be able to email info to myself or others for school purposes

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:21:10
Facebook groups for school! Yes!

JPP (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:21:17
you can use hotmail at school if not thats why they brought in schoolzone

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:21:21
This technology chat could be a group on facebook!

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:21:27
but its teh fact ur leaving it open to the students to make that decision and i would have to say most ppl wont choose writting that important essay, theyll be talkin to peeps about there weekend

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:21:36
lol. have fun with that, sgodlien.

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:22:11
i believe people would be distracted by computers

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:22:24
same

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:22:28
they are distracted by computers already...

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:22:30
Personal Discipline

Amir B. (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:22:30
they would want to play games more than actually do the wokr

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:23:04
personal discipline - there are many students that dont care, they would chat, and play games instead of their work

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:23:29
Sam- Yes, and students like us miss out because of students who dont care

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:23:42
every day.

J. Percy Page (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:23:50
there is no absolute requirement for facebook .... it is simply a distraction for students ... i know that there are people who are responsible and may actually want to use it for good but of course there is going to be people who will abuse that priviledge

Dana (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:23:50
computers are just away of seperating us from whats really going on...wen it comes to school.

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:23:51
hence we have regulations. hence we have safepass.

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:23:57
Yes, it is definatly unfortunate for us

David Warlick (NC) • 2009-03-09 11:24:27
OK! We're going to the next phase and I need to set up for the educators to use Knitter. Thanks SOOO MUCH!

Samantha (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:24:34
teacher in Braemar

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:24:39
teachers using knitter?

Shane (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:24:57
yes we are

SGodlien (AB) • 2009-03-09 11:25:09
So students can still chat?

Clint (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:25:19
yes

B.S (CA) • 2009-03-09 11:25:20
this is going to be very interesting.

Comments

This was a good idea, and it was moving along smoothly, up until David and the teachers actually got involved with Knitter and the Video Conference. The teachers in Knitter made the students unable to develop their answers to the teachers question, since as soon as we answered, they gave another question.

David was somewhat unprofessional during the video conference, even laughing at one student, along with proposing irrelevant questions. For example; "Can you type faster on a keyboard then thumbing on your cellphone?". Unless he plans to start making us write essays on phones, this question is pointless.

Not only was he difficult to understand, they had major audio problems on their front, after being told many times he was hard to hear, the audio was never turned up, so when we had to max our volume to hear him, the other schools were far too loud when they began to talk.

This was a good idea, when the students were able to discuss and talk amongst themselves.

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